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and nobody is better at talking about it than the pentagon. because it's the largest organization in the world. they actually have to plan things. i'm told that in a lot of agencies around town, they don't know what to do. >> the planning is a mess. but the pentagon they're running wars. chris: let me go to the usual probability. the president gives in because he gets scared about national defense. he can't get the aircraft carrier into the persian gulf and we'll do the mix over again and cut some of the social spending. is that likely he'll do that? >> i think after you've gone past the sequester, and once the pain starts to hit, there will be some sort of negotiation. he will give a bit and i think the republicans will have to give a bit, too. you got democrats at the moment targeting half of the tea party members because precisely they think they're vulnerable. on the issue of defense spending, on the issue of cuts that will hurt people in their districts. >> will the president go to entitlement reform which is the one way you get republica
and nobody is better at talking about it than the pentagon. because it's the largest organization in the world. they actually have to plan things. i'm told that in a lot of agencies around town, they don't know what to do. >> the planning is a mess. but the pentagon they're running wars. chris: let me go to the usual probability. the president gives in because he gets scared about national defense. he can't get the aircraft carrier into the persian gulf and we'll do the mix over again and...
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for more on this, we turn to nbc pentagon correspondent, jim miklaszewski. jim, what is this all about? >> lester, this order today shocked u.s. defense and military officials, taken totally by surprise. military officials strongly deny u.s. commandos condone or took part in any kidnappings, torture or murders of afghan civilians or suspects. now, in the past, president karzai has taken the u.s. military to task, in part, to show the afghan people that he's in charge. but wardak province is a taliban stronghold, one of the hottest combat areas in afghanistan. so if karzai's playing politics here, it's an extremely dangerous game, lester. >> could this derail the planned 2014 withdrawal of the majority of troops, the schedule the administration is currently sticking with? >> well, people are already wondering that. president obama has already announced 34,000 troops. that's half the total american force will withdraw from afghanistan by the end of this year. but if u.s. forces are prevented from executing their missions, you may start to hear calls from here
for more on this, we turn to nbc pentagon correspondent, jim miklaszewski. jim, what is this all about? >> lester, this order today shocked u.s. defense and military officials, taken totally by surprise. military officials strongly deny u.s. commandos condone or took part in any kidnappings, torture or murders of afghan civilians or suspects. now, in the past, president karzai has taken the u.s. military to task, in part, to show the afghan people that he's in charge. but wardak province...
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what's amazing is they want austerity at the expense of the pentagon, and that was the whole purpose of the sequester was to hold a gun to the pentagon's head and to poor people's head so that democrats and republicans would both have an incentive to compromise. that's out the window. they would rather have austerity than protect defense spending, which is a whole new shift in the political calculus. >> unexpected one. sfwhoo two things are true. this is a terrible way to govern. it's a terrible way to budget. no rationale person would sit down and say we're just going to have across the board cuts regardless of efficacy of programs. we're going to cut the bad programs as well as the good. no one would do that. the white house put out their numbers last night, the state by state impact numbers. >> the embargo numbers. >> right. you know, we saw them here in new york on the local level, and, obviously, nobody at the local level wants to take a hit. nobody wants to see aid from washington reduced at the local level. there's not going to be blood in the streets. buildings are not going
what's amazing is they want austerity at the expense of the pentagon, and that was the whole purpose of the sequester was to hold a gun to the pentagon's head and to poor people's head so that democrats and republicans would both have an incentive to compromise. that's out the window. they would rather have austerity than protect defense spending, which is a whole new shift in the political calculus. >> unexpected one. sfwhoo two things are true. this is a terrible way to govern. it's a...
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which, by the way, a lot of democrats like to see those big budget cuts on the pentagon. a lot of republicans would like to see those budget cuts on some domestic spending. so what's hanging over their heads right now is not as awful as the last couple of times we went around this. and so i think that's why john's right. that's why they're going to end up having this problem. >> how about pride? how about that has beening ov i their head? they work in a government that at least can do its most basic function and pass a budget? they work in a government and not a circus. how about pride in that? >> that would be good. you saw the article bob woodward had in "the washington post" this weekend. saying the president is in effect moving the goal post on the $85 billion. so when the president asks that a substitute for the sequester include not just spending cuts but also new revenue, that means taxes, he is moving the goal posts. his call for a balanced approach is reasonable, and he makes a strong case that those in the top income brackets could and should pay more. but that
which, by the way, a lot of democrats like to see those big budget cuts on the pentagon. a lot of republicans would like to see those budget cuts on some domestic spending. so what's hanging over their heads right now is not as awful as the last couple of times we went around this. and so i think that's why john's right. that's why they're going to end up having this problem. >> how about pride? how about that has beening ov i their head? they work in a government that at least can do its...
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we should cut the pentagon. but these across the board cuts aren't the way to go t i would love to hear your take. two things, denial. there is not going to be so bad. no. i don't mean on. we can cut 13% 90% in the pecht gone surely. we can tightin our builts. they isn't going to be so bad or they just say no. all obama is doing is lying. he is just exaggerating to get his way. don't believe it. it's just peter and the wolfe. here is what's wrong with that. it's wrong because, number 1, they are wrong on their facts. these cuts are real. they are going to hurt. no. 2, it's just bad public policy. across the board cuts, as several people pointed out, erskin bowls alan simpson pointed out, it's not something any business would do. if you are having some problems your sales are not as good as they have been this month or something or the last six months in a business wants to look at what we can do to reduce costs, you don't cut everybody like 20% across the board. you don't cut your best salespeople 20%. you look
we should cut the pentagon. but these across the board cuts aren't the way to go t i would love to hear your take. two things, denial. there is not going to be so bad. no. i don't mean on. we can cut 13% 90% in the pecht gone surely. we can tightin our builts. they isn't going to be so bad or they just say no. all obama is doing is lying. he is just exaggerating to get his way. don't believe it. it's just peter and the wolfe. here is what's wrong with that. it's wrong because, number 1, they...
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gillette said the pentagon needs to five will round up these numbers -- 100 new soldiers. his limited tiring 98? of course not. he hires the full 100 but less somewhere else, like maybe janitors that west pointer in the pentagon, not to become the pentagon and not to pick my friends a west point, but the point is, the president has executive authority to make sure the government works properly. in fact, he is required to make sure it works properly. his of says, he promises faithfully to execute the office of president of the united states. that word faithfully is in the constitution, and it is in his of to make sure that the government works, that he does not use government agencies to harm his political opponents and help his political supporters. after eight. ashley: that good faith to me because their role in it for their own political gain, the political part, and they're not always making decisions. >> i'll tell you this. if the president of the united states of america furloughs a sufficient number of tsa agents so that we have to wait five hours in line to get to t
gillette said the pentagon needs to five will round up these numbers -- 100 new soldiers. his limited tiring 98? of course not. he hires the full 100 but less somewhere else, like maybe janitors that west pointer in the pentagon, not to become the pentagon and not to pick my friends a west point, but the point is, the president has executive authority to make sure the government works properly. in fact, he is required to make sure it works properly. his of says, he promises faithfully to...
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virginia, where the pentagon is, big navy installations, the republican governor is going to be suffering if the sequester goes in to effect. i was in utah last week. the government is the single largest employer including an air force base in the middle of utah with $1.2 billion in payroll per year and the governors of the red states are complaining about this pretty quickly. >> well, dan, first i want to ask you as a "newsweek" ambassador to explain the cover. will an asteroid destroy the earth? >> try to keep all the bases covered. >> yes or no there. >> wow. way to bury the lead. i can't believe we're talking about sequester when they're breaking that story. >> if you think the budget cuts are going to be severe wait until you see that. >> wait until the asteroid hits. >> big tease, dan. i want to ask about obama's strategy. recently over the weekend to sort of demagogue this hysteria. maybe he knows the asteroid is coming. forgetting the untruths of navy ships and criminals running wild in the streets because of the cuts, let's talk just about the impact of that kind of going back to
virginia, where the pentagon is, big navy installations, the republican governor is going to be suffering if the sequester goes in to effect. i was in utah last week. the government is the single largest employer including an air force base in the middle of utah with $1.2 billion in payroll per year and the governors of the red states are complaining about this pretty quickly. >> well, dan, first i want to ask you as a "newsweek" ambassador to explain the cover. will an asteroid...
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who don't wear uniform or civilians work for the pentagon. the pentagon is a big bureaucracy. the point i would make, martha. private businesses did this during the recession. they sucked in their stomach, they tightened their belt. they got rid of waste in their budget and why can't government do that? martha: you've been saying it. rick perry tried to do the list you did. things didn't work out very well for him. you did it masterfully. you're not seeing that list from republicans, are you? >> well, i know, --. martha: elected republicans in washington? >> you know what, martha? paul ryan has a budget that passed congress the last two years and that has some pretty specific cuts. you and i might not agree with everything on the list --. martha: but i'm saying average person on the street what would they cut, they would not be able to do that. we have to go. >> everybody loves santa claus. that is why we have a problem and the debt, right? martha: thank you, steve. >> see you, martha. martha: we'll see you soon. bill: ho, ho, ho. 21 past the
who don't wear uniform or civilians work for the pentagon. the pentagon is a big bureaucracy. the point i would make, martha. private businesses did this during the recession. they sucked in their stomach, they tightened their belt. they got rid of waste in their budget and why can't government do that? martha: you've been saying it. rick perry tried to do the list you did. things didn't work out very well for him. you did it masterfully. you're not seeing that list from republicans, are you?...
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it is especially true, a new york times article saying republicans would hit steep cuts hitting the pentagon. here is how the defense sector is fairing right now. shall we take a look if we don't have that, we will bring it to you when we do. john harwood, live in washington. hi, john. >> there is no more clarity around this budget sequester situation than there is about the italian elections that michelle was talking about earlier. you've got many republicans as well as democrats saying, either publicly or privately, oh, it's not that bad. if you're a democrat will it cut defense. some say okay, it'll cut spending overall. that's fine too. you have president obama with public pressure trying to convince the american people that bad things are going to happen and put pressure on republicans. he also sent senate remarks in the morning to the white house a way out for both sides. >> democrats, like me, need to acknowledge that we're going to have to make modest reforms in medicare if we want the program there for future generations and if we hope to maintain our ability to invest in critical t
it is especially true, a new york times article saying republicans would hit steep cuts hitting the pentagon. here is how the defense sector is fairing right now. shall we take a look if we don't have that, we will bring it to you when we do. john harwood, live in washington. hi, john. >> there is no more clarity around this budget sequester situation than there is about the italian elections that michelle was talking about earlier. you've got many republicans as well as democrats saying,...
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well, you get $85 billion in budget cuts in discretionary, domestic spending as well as in the pentagon and there are a lots of people on both sides of the aisle for different reasons who believe, you know what, that's not such a terrible thing. so the default setting, despite what we heard about the tsa lines and all the rest, may be pretty palletable to some. and it shows you how far the dysfunction in washington has come since they came up with this plan a couple of years ago. >> now, on the dysfunction angle, look, the last time we talked about something sort of similar was fiscal cliff in december, the last congress. now we have new members of congress. my question now is how is the republican party different? >> well, this is the most interesting part of this. i think the white house made a calculation when this whole idea was hatched that the republican party would never go for draconian cuts on military spending. and what occurred in the republican party is that you have a group of younger members who believe in budget cutting above all else, and are willing to take the hits in
well, you get $85 billion in budget cuts in discretionary, domestic spending as well as in the pentagon and there are a lots of people on both sides of the aisle for different reasons who believe, you know what, that's not such a terrible thing. so the default setting, despite what we heard about the tsa lines and all the rest, may be pretty palletable to some. and it shows you how far the dysfunction in washington has come since they came up with this plan a couple of years ago. >> now,...
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the pentagon said a majority of civilian employees will be furloughed. they talked about agricultural department, with meat and poultry inspectors facing furloughs. this information goes on and on , no matter where you read today. june is calling from wisconsin. independent. caller: hi. i just want everybody to remember that we sent the people to washington who are our "representatives" to represent us, not their own egos. they should be furloughed. everybody in congress who is against doing things to make this country grow, they should not get paid. they should be laid off and not get a pay raise for years. they are always big on cutting public workers. listen, it has always been about good government jobs. government workers spend the money, and other businesses hire more people. the republicans know that, and it is just a shame that we are at war and the things we are doing in congress are, like, treasonous to me, because it is bringing down our country. my senator, ron johnson, he needs to fully explain why he is not encouraging his peons in congress
the pentagon said a majority of civilian employees will be furloughed. they talked about agricultural department, with meat and poultry inspectors facing furloughs. this information goes on and on , no matter where you read today. june is calling from wisconsin. independent. caller: hi. i just want everybody to remember that we sent the people to washington who are our "representatives" to represent us, not their own egos. they should be furloughed. everybody in congress who is...
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the house republicans are putting in a provision that will give agency heads especially at the pentagon the flexibility to decide how cuts are to be administered. the white house is resisting that. this is the empire, the empire striking back, stuart. big bloated government is going to fight for every penny it can get. even though it's only a penny on the dollar they're going to fight fiercely for it they know if it's done once it might be done again. stuart: let me summarize this. we would have these cuts in place until the end of march, and then, because we need to organize our government finances. >> because we haven't had a budget. stuart: we haven't had a budget, those cuts would stay in place and still be cutting the budget, but agency heads would be allowed to say we'll cut the conference budget, we won't cut personnel. >> yes. stuart: we'll cut the school janitor, but not the teacher say that after march 27th. >> that's what the republicans are moving toward. stuart: i can't see how the president could resist that. >> he wants to resist because the cuts would take place, for onc
the house republicans are putting in a provision that will give agency heads especially at the pentagon the flexibility to decide how cuts are to be administered. the white house is resisting that. this is the empire, the empire striking back, stuart. big bloated government is going to fight for every penny it can get. even though it's only a penny on the dollar they're going to fight fiercely for it they know if it's done once it might be done again. stuart: let me summarize this. we would...
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was supposed to come out of the defense department on sequester and taken them to other places in the pentagon where fat could be cut. stand up and be counted. put solutions on the table and we can cut spending and preserve defense capability. >>gretchen: there were governors on the talk shows yesterday, bipartisan support for what you're saying from governor o'malley and virginia's governor mcdonnell. let me ask you what you think the world reaction is to watching the united states, the biggest superpower in the world, talking so drastically about cuts to the pentagon and the military? >> the world sees yet another signal that america already has and will have to pull back from its obligations. enemies see weakness. allies see the potential for jumping back and forth on obligations to allies. i think they see equivocation, weakness and they wonder where america is going to be in its role in the world. that foments more violence which makes defense more necessary. >>gretchen: let's see what happens. deadline coming up this friday. coming up, he fought the president on unions and won. now gover
was supposed to come out of the defense department on sequester and taken them to other places in the pentagon where fat could be cut. stand up and be counted. put solutions on the table and we can cut spending and preserve defense capability. >>gretchen: there were governors on the talk shows yesterday, bipartisan support for what you're saying from governor o'malley and virginia's governor mcdonnell. let me ask you what you think the world reaction is to watching the united states, the...
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so government jobs, is this now include the pentagon? is this our military? we should just cut by 10%? suddenly giuliani doesn't like anyone collecting a government paycheck. that's an awfully big umbrella to start talking down people and suggesting they're all lazy and sitting around and inefficient. >> stephanie: exactly. 17 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert remains in the sidecar. we condition continue right-wing world right after this on "the stephanie miller show." >> i got her number off the men's room stall. 1-800-steph-12. in brookside chocolate a world of remarkable tastes comes together. rich, dark chocolate meets sweetened soft centers flavored with exotic fruit juices, like pomegranate goji with raspberry, and acai with blueberry. it's chocolate like you've never experienced it before. and it comes from a place called brookside. discover brookside. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anyth
so government jobs, is this now include the pentagon? is this our military? we should just cut by 10%? suddenly giuliani doesn't like anyone collecting a government paycheck. that's an awfully big umbrella to start talking down people and suggesting they're all lazy and sitting around and inefficient. >> stephanie: exactly. 17 minutes after the hour. eric boehlert remains in the sidecar. we condition continue right-wing world right after this on "the stephanie miller show."...
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just in time for spring, national parks like yosemite will see their services cut, the pentagon planning to force more than 700,000 defense department workers to take one day off a week, a 20% pay cut. near quantico marine base in northern virginia, the anticipation is already breeding anxiety. >> people are hunkered down, really afraid to spend any kind of money. >> reporter: there is bipartisan agreement for one thing, both sides seem to agree that these cuts will go into affect at the end of this week. there's also at least some good news. most of the layoffs and furloughs won't actually take place until a month from now. >> maybe they will sort it out at some point. peter alexander at the white house, thank you very much. >>> let's get a check of the top stories of the morning. natalie is here with those. >> good morning to you. >> good morning. welcome back. >> thank you. >> good morning, savannah. in the news this morning, john kerry is in london this morning as he kicks off his first official overseas trip as secretary of state. nbc's foreign chief correspondent andrea mitchell is
just in time for spring, national parks like yosemite will see their services cut, the pentagon planning to force more than 700,000 defense department workers to take one day off a week, a 20% pay cut. near quantico marine base in northern virginia, the anticipation is already breeding anxiety. >> people are hunkered down, really afraid to spend any kind of money. >> reporter: there is bipartisan agreement for one thing, both sides seem to agree that these cuts will go into affect...